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02/17/2022 01:30 PM House FINANCE

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01:35:19 PM Start
01:36:22 PM Presentation: Department of Public Safety
03:13:02 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 281 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 282 APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Department of Public Safety by TELECONFERENCED
Commissioner James Cockrell
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     February 17, 2022                                                                                          
                         1:35 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:35 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Neal Foster, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Kelly Merrick, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Dan Ortiz, Vice-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Bart LeBon                                                                                                       
Representative Sara Rasmussen                                                                                                   
Representative Steve Thompson                                                                                                   
Representative Adam Wool (via teleconference)                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Ben Carpenter                                                                                                    
Representative DeLena Johnson                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Leon  Morgan,  Deputy  Commissioner,  Department  of  Public                                                                    
Safety;   Kelly    Howell,   Special   Assistant    to   the                                                                    
Commissioner, Department  of Public Safety;  James Cockrell,                                                                    
Commissioner,  Department  of  Public Safety;  Diane  Casto,                                                                    
Executive Director, Council on  Domestic Violence and Sexual                                                                    
Assault, Department of Public Safety.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Colonel  Bryan  Barlow,  Director,  Alaska  State  Troopers,                                                                    
Department of Public Safety.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
HB 281    APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
          HB 281 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HB 282    APPROP: MENTAL HEALTH BUDGET                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
          HB 282 was HEARD and HELD in committee for                                                                            
          further consideration.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster reviewed the meeting agenda.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 281                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     loan  program  expenses  of state  government  and  for                                                                    
     certain   programs;    capitalizing   funds;   amending                                                                    
     appropriations;    making   reappropriations;    making                                                                    
     supplemental   appropriations;  making   appropriations                                                                    
     under art.  IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution of  the State                                                                    
     of  Alaska,  from  the  constitutional  budget  reserve                                                                    
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 282                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and                                                                    
     capital    expenses   of    the   state's    integrated                                                                    
     comprehensive  mental  health program;  making  capital                                                                    
     appropriations  and  supplemental  appropriations;  and                                                                    
     providing for an effective date."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:36:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LEON MORGAN, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC                                                                          
SAFETY, introduced himself.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
KELLY HOWELL, SPECIAL ASSISTANT TO THE COMMISSIONER,                                                                            
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, introduced herself                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JAMES COCKRELL,  COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,                                                                    
introduced staff  in the  audience. He  believed he  had the                                                                    
finest  leadership staff  the  Department  of Public  Safety                                                                    
(DPS) had ever had. He  detailed that he had traveled around                                                                    
the state meeting  with the people of Alaska,  and he wanted                                                                    
citizens to know that the  department was listening to their                                                                    
concerns. He reported the state  had the highest rate in the                                                                    
country of  sexual assault and domestic  violence per capita                                                                    
and the Yukon-Kuskokwim (YK) Delta  had the highest rates in                                                                    
the state. There  were more sexual assaults  reported in the                                                                    
Bethel region than in the  city of Anchorage. The department                                                                    
had  met with  the Calista  Corporation in  the YK  Delta to                                                                    
discuss  the topic.  He  detailed that  the  murder rate  of                                                                    
women was  high in the  state and  many of the  victims were                                                                    
Alaska Native.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  continued  that the  department  was                                                                    
focusing  on its  statutory  requirements and  concentrating                                                                    
specifically  on  revitalizing  the  Village  Public  Safety                                                                    
Officer (VPSO)  program in rural Alaska.  He emphasized that                                                                    
the department was committed to  growing the VPSO program in                                                                    
addition  to growing  the number  of  Alaska State  Troopers                                                                    
(AST)  on  Alaska's roads.  He  was  confident that  if  the                                                                    
department received  all the requested funds  in the budget,                                                                    
it would  be able  to provide  increased safety  to citizens                                                                    
and ultimately save  lives. He relayed that  when he started                                                                    
at  the  department   about  40  years  ago,   AST  had  308                                                                    
authorized positions; in 2022,  there were 315 positions. He                                                                    
thought  state funds  had been  allocated disproportionately                                                                    
to urban areas  and that rural areas were  suffering. If the                                                                    
trend continued,  the federal government would  have to fill                                                                    
the void.  He asserted that  the state had an  obligation to                                                                    
provide  adequate and  professional law  enforcement to  all                                                                    
communities. The  department would continue to  ask for more                                                                    
resources because providing law enforcement was not cheap.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:42:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  asked how the process  was going of                                                                    
finding housing in rural areas for public safety workers.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Cockrell   replied   that  there   had   been                                                                    
productive  conversations  on  housing in  the  department's                                                                    
subcommittees.  The department  was struggling  with finding                                                                    
housing and was continuing to look for creative solutions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  introduced  a  PowerPoint  presentation  titled                                                                    
"Department  of Public  Safety FY2023  Department Overview,"                                                                    
dated February 17,  2022 (copy on file). She  began on slide                                                                    
2. The department's mission was  to ensure public safety and                                                                    
enforce  fish  and  wildlife  laws.   She  listed  some  key                                                                    
objectives,  including  the  recruitment  and  retention  of                                                                    
staff,  rural Alaska  law enforcement  and safety,  domestic                                                                    
violence and sexual assault,  revitalizing the VPSO program,                                                                    
commercial  fishing and  hunting,  and  narcotics and  major                                                                    
investigations.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz referenced  Ms.  Howell's statement  about                                                                    
revitalizing the  VPSO program.  He asked  if more  would be                                                                    
done to  improve the program  in addition to  increasing the                                                                    
number of VPSOs.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell answered that  one of the first things                                                                    
he had  done when he came  to the department was  moving the                                                                    
VPSO  program directly  into the  commissioner's office.  He                                                                    
thought the action provided the  program with the prominence                                                                    
and oversight that it deserved.  The department had recently                                                                    
hired retired  colonel Mr. Joel  Hard to be the  director of                                                                    
the VPSO  program and  Mr. Hard had  full freedom  to change                                                                    
the  program  in  the department's  desired  direction.  The                                                                    
department  wanted  to  provide  more  flexibility  for  the                                                                    
grantees to run the program in  the way that would best meet                                                                    
the needs of the tribes and communities.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  noted the high number  of suicides in                                                                    
rural communities and relayed  that a community could choose                                                                    
to hire  someone specifically trained in  suicide prevention                                                                    
instead of a VPSO. The scope  of VPSOs had changed in recent                                                                    
years from a public safety  officer that was likely from the                                                                    
local village  to a law  enforcement officer who  had likely                                                                    
not  grown  up  in  the  village  or  even  in  Alaska.  The                                                                    
department  wanted to  give  a VPSO  to  any community  that                                                                    
wanted  one. He  indicated that  the department  had funding                                                                    
for  about  55 VPSOs  and  the  governor had  authorized  an                                                                    
additional  10  positions,  but  realistically,  the  number                                                                    
needed to almost  double. Around 15 years ago,  the YK Delta                                                                    
had  between 20  and  30  VPSOs and  it  currently only  had                                                                    
three. The Bethel  region had 57 villages and  it was likely                                                                    
that  around  50  of  them  did not  currently  have  a  law                                                                    
enforcement  presence unless  the  village had  a VPSO.  The                                                                    
department  was authorized  to employ  315  officers and  he                                                                    
wanted to increase the number to 415 officers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:50:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Foster  asked for the  number of VPSOs in  the past                                                                    
compared to the present.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell answered  that funding  was currently                                                                    
available for 55 VPSOs, the  department had 48 "boots on the                                                                    
ground," and the governor's budget  would allow for up to 65                                                                    
VPSOs. There were  around 114 VPSOS in 2014,  but the number                                                                    
had  been continuously  decreasing partially  due to  budget                                                                    
cuts in FY 15 through FY 17.  One of the things on which the                                                                    
department had been judged was  the amount of funding in the                                                                    
VPSO program that had been  returned. He explained that part                                                                    
of the  issue was that  the department ran the  VPSO program                                                                    
the same way  it ran its own budget, which  did not work for                                                                    
the  VPSO program.  The department  was  not addressing  the                                                                    
variety  of  complicated  elements   involved  in  the  VPSO                                                                    
program. He believed the handling  of the program had been a                                                                    
failure  but the  department was  now going  in a  different                                                                    
direction.   He  asked   the  legislature   to  permit   the                                                                    
flexibility that he thought was  necessary to meet the needs                                                                    
of each individual community.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  shared  that  she  had  chaired  the  DPS                                                                    
subcommittee.  She  complimented  Mr.   Hard  who  had  very                                                                    
recently taken over the VPSO  program. She looked forward to                                                                    
the work he would do.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  advanced to slide  3 and  turned it over  to her                                                                    
colleague, Mr. Morgan.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan addressed slide 3  regarding the statewide impact                                                                    
of DPS. He read from the slide as follows:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    DPS is Alaska's primary statewide law enforcement                                                                        
     agency                                                                                                                     
    Direct support to other agencies                                                                                         
        o Investigative assistance                                                                                              
        o Search and rescue                                                                                                     
        o Training                                                                                                              
        o Alaska Public Safety Information Network                                                                              
        o Crime Lab                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell turned to a  10-year lookback of the department's                                                                    
operating budget  on slide  4. She did  not have  the dollar                                                                    
figures  listed for  the various  fund sources  and directed                                                                    
the  committee's   attention  to  the   Legislative  Finance                                                                    
Division's (LFD) graphs  that showed the numbers.  The FY 23                                                                    
budget request reflected  an overall increase from  FY 22 of                                                                    
about $36.6  million. She  noted that  about $24  million of                                                                    
the  request was  comprised  of  unrestricted general  funds                                                                    
(UGF).  However, $9.7  million of  the overall  increase was                                                                    
related  to  the  transfer  of   the  Alaska  Public  Safety                                                                    
Communications  Services  (APSCS)  from  the  Department  of                                                                    
Military and Veterans Affairs (DMVA) into DPS.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell moved  to slide 5 and  discussed the department's                                                                    
position  history. There  was a  significant increase  of 93                                                                    
permanent full-time positions  from FY 22 to  FY 23; however                                                                    
24 of  the positions  were transferred  in from  DMVA. There                                                                    
were 17  new state trooper  positions; 14 were  Alaska State                                                                    
Troopers   and   three   were  Alaska   Wildlife   Troopers.                                                                    
Additionally, 46  civilian positions  were added  to provide                                                                    
support  to troopers  and  enhance  other priority  programs                                                                    
such as the Missing  and Murdered Indigenous Persons program                                                                    
and domestic violence and sexual assault.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  if there  were projections  showing                                                                    
the  number of  troopers  the  department anticipated  would                                                                    
retire in the coming five years.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan  responded that  in the next  one to  five years,                                                                    
there  were   130  state  trooper  positions   eligible  for                                                                    
retirement. The department  was aware that there  could be a                                                                    
significant shift  in the workforce  and it was  critical to                                                                    
acknowledge  the  shift  when strategizing  recruitment  and                                                                    
retention efforts.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon   looked  at   slide  5   showing  the                                                                    
authorized   positions  and   the  request   for  additional                                                                    
positions  in FY  23. He  asked  for the  current number  of                                                                    
vacancies the department  was trying to fill  in addition to                                                                    
the 17 new trooper positions.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:59:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  advanced to the  state trooper  position history                                                                    
on slide  6 to respond  to Representative  LeBon's question.                                                                    
She  shared that  the  number of  vacancies  for all  public                                                                    
safety  positions   was  in  the  mid-60s.   The  number  of                                                                    
vacancies  for  AST  specifically  was around  38,  but  the                                                                    
number took  into account the  individuals who  would attend                                                                    
the academy  within the next  two weeks. She  believed there                                                                    
would be  67 vacancies if  the individuals who  would attend                                                                    
the academy  were excluded.  She noted  that there  would be                                                                    
multiple academy  sessions in  the near  future and  she was                                                                    
hopeful that  the new recruits  would come close  to filling                                                                    
the vacancies.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked if the 17  new trooper positions                                                                    
were in addition to the 67 vacancies.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan answered  that on paper there  were 67 vacancies,                                                                    
but the number  was expected to decrease to  around 30 after                                                                    
the department  made job offers  to the current  recruits in                                                                    
the following  week. The department was  doing everything it                                                                    
could  to  keep  its  number  of  vacancies  at  around  30.                                                                    
Maintaining  the   number  of  vacancies  would   allow  the                                                                    
department the  stability it needed  to be able to  add more                                                                    
positions the  following year.  The goal was  to get  to 415                                                                    
troopers  in  the  future  and   account  for  the  upcoming                                                                    
retirements that  were currently pending. He  explained that                                                                    
it  was  necessary  to  have  open  positions  in  order  to                                                                    
recruit.  He  reiterated  that  the  goal  was  to  keep  30                                                                    
positions open in order to stay ahead of the curve.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon  understood   that  recruitment   and                                                                    
retention    was   challenging.    He   asked    where   the                                                                    
aforementioned additional 14 ASTs would be located.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan replied  that the breakdown of  the positions was                                                                    
the following: one trooper in  Fairbanks and one in Tok; one                                                                    
technical  flight officer  in Fairbanks,  one in  Anchorage,                                                                    
and  one in  Tok; one  sergeant for  the Anchorage  Services                                                                    
Unit  which supported  the Aleutians;  and ten  sergeants at                                                                    
the training post in the "B" detachment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon   asked   for  verification   the   B                                                                    
Detachment was in the Wasilla and Palmer area.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  asked what  situation had  taken place                                                                    
to warrant the increased number of troopers in the area.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan  responded  the department  had  taken  it  upon                                                                    
itself to  shuffle troopers geographically  to the  areas of                                                                    
need, particularly  because there  had been  a dire  need in                                                                    
the  Tok  area.  In  order   to  add  positions  within  the                                                                    
department, the  positions had to  be added to  the training                                                                    
posts first  and later  on would  be redistributed  to other                                                                    
areas of  need in  the state.  He did  not look  at it  as a                                                                    
permanent position, but as a  way to develop a better backup                                                                    
for future  needs. The  B Detachment had  one of  the lowest                                                                    
numbers of assigned troopers and  had the highest population                                                                    
to serve.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:05:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon assumed Fairbanks was a training post.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan agreed.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson  was grateful for  the department's                                                                    
efforts  and  commitment.   He  recalled  that  Commissioner                                                                    
Cockrell's predecessor had inferred  the vacancy problem had                                                                    
been  resolved.  He  thought people  did  not  desire  state                                                                    
employment  as much  as they  used to,  and difficulties  in                                                                    
recruitment  and retention  could be  seen across  all state                                                                    
departments. He asked what it  would take for people to want                                                                    
to work for the state and remain in their positions.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell answered  that police departments were                                                                    
having   difficulty   recruiting  and   retaining   officers                                                                    
throughout the  nation. He  thought that  Alaska fortunately                                                                    
had  more  support for  its  law  enforcement officers  than                                                                    
other  states. However,  the department  had struggled  with                                                                    
hiring its troopers since the late  1990s due to a myriad of                                                                    
reasons. Part of the reason  for the retention issue was the                                                                    
amount of work  officers were asked to do.  He supposed that                                                                    
the  workload  of  trooper was  more  substantial  than  the                                                                    
workload  of  any other  law  enforcement  officer in  other                                                                    
states. He  had troopers  with a caseload  of over  100, and                                                                    
knew of a  sergeant at a rural post who  was responsible for                                                                    
supervising troopers in addition  to balancing a caseload of                                                                    
80.  He did  not think  it was  possible for  one person  to                                                                    
handle  the overwhelming  caseload,  supervise others,  make                                                                    
arrests, and go to court.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell continued  that a  significant driver                                                                    
for the retention  issue was that troopers did  not have the                                                                    
support that  they needed. Troopers were  already working an                                                                    
excess amount of  overtime and it was difficult  to get them                                                                    
to work more  overtime hours to perform  duties like highway                                                                    
enforcement.  He understood  the legislature  wanted to  see                                                                    
the overtime budget  decrease, but when the  phone rang, the                                                                    
officers had to  respond. He did not think that  there was a                                                                    
single area in the state  with adequate law enforcement, and                                                                    
the department needed  to hire more officers  to address the                                                                    
issue and  provide the  officers with  the support  that was                                                                    
necessary to do their job.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:11:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  continued to reply  to Representative                                                                    
Josephson's  question.  He  emphasized that  the  state  was                                                                    
asking too  much of  its troopers. He  relayed that  part of                                                                    
his job  was to  ensure that  troopers were  being supported                                                                    
and  retained. The  state could  not afford  to continue  to                                                                    
lose troopers after a few years  of employment due to a lack                                                                    
of support.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson  referred to  slides  5  and 6.  He                                                                    
assumed slide 6 did not include VPSOs.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell agreed.  She detailed that the  slides showed DPS                                                                    
employees and that  VPSOs were employees of  the ten grantee                                                                    
organizations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson asked  for confirmation  that VPSOs                                                                    
were not state employees.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell confirmed that VPSOs were not state employees.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked how a caseload worked for a trooper.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  answered that every  case represented                                                                    
a call for  service that a trooper answered,  and a caseload                                                                    
was  composed  of  the  calls   answered  by  an  individual                                                                    
trooper. Every  criminal offence was a  case, which included                                                                    
offenses like driving under the  influence or driving with a                                                                    
suspended  license. A  trooper  was responsible  for a  case                                                                    
until   it  was   closed,   which   required  completing   a                                                                    
substantial  amount of  paperwork  and  filling reports.  He                                                                    
noted  that  the average  caseload  was  80  to 100  in  the                                                                    
Matanuska-Susitna  (Mat-Su) Valley.  In  the  past two  days                                                                    
alone, the  department had arrested  three people  in Mat-Su                                                                    
for  sexual  abuse  of  a   minor.  There  was  currently  a                                                                    
Community Emergency Response Team  (CERT) operation going on                                                                    
in one of  the schools in Mat-Su because a  student had gone                                                                    
there in the  middle of the night with a  gun and threatened                                                                    
the janitor.  He relayed that similar  events happened every                                                                    
day  and   the  department  needed  adequate   personnel  to                                                                    
respond.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:14:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz  asked  if there  was  a  significant  pay                                                                    
differential for  people serving in rural  areas as compared                                                                    
to urban areas.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  responded  that the  department  had                                                                    
offered  a  $20,000  sign-on  bonus   as  an  incentive  for                                                                    
officers in rural areas, which  had improved the recruitment                                                                    
numbers.  He was  pleased  with the  new  recruits from  the                                                                    
academies  and  was  confident  that  there  would  be  more                                                                    
successful  recruits  to  come  from  future  academies.  He                                                                    
shared  that AST  was  still seen  as one  of  the best  law                                                                    
enforcement agencies  in the country for  employment because                                                                    
of  the  focus on  employee  support.  He relayed  that  the                                                                    
department  was   continuing  to  address   the  devastating                                                                    
cutbacks of  almost 40  positions in  2015 through  2017. It                                                                    
was difficult to  recruit when the Office  of Management and                                                                    
Budget (OMB) was reporting that  more troopers would need to                                                                    
be  laid  off.  He  thought  it seemed  there  was  talk  of                                                                    
shutting down  the government  every summer,  which impacted                                                                    
the morale of employees.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick asked  for verification  that there  was a                                                                    
$20,000 sign-on bonus.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell replied in the affirmative.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  she asked  what  kind  of commitment  was                                                                    
required from a recruit to be eligible for the bonus.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  responded that once a  recruit passed                                                                    
the  academy,  they  would receive  a  $10,000  bonus,  then                                                                    
receive the  additional $10,000 when  they passed  the Field                                                                    
Training Officer (FTO) period and probational period.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked how long the probational period was.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell responded it was one year.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson  commented that it  seemed difficult                                                                    
to manage troopers  in remote areas who  were often required                                                                    
to travel to  urban areas to attend court. He  asked how the                                                                    
troopers  ensured that  areas were  not  without an  officer                                                                    
when there was required travel.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  deferred  to his  colleague  Colonel                                                                    
Bryan Barlow.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:18:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COLONEL  BRYAN  BARLOW,  DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  STATE  TROOPERS,                                                                    
DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY (via  teleconference), answered                                                                    
that the troopers utilized staff  from all over the state to                                                                    
backfill  understaffed  areas.  The troopers  could  utilize                                                                    
resources  like state  aircrafts when  necessary to  quickly                                                                    
transport employees.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Rasmussen  asked how often  perpetrators were                                                                    
repeat offenders.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell responded that he could not answer.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen  asked  if  it was  common  for  a                                                                    
perpetrator to have multiple victims and repeat offenses.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  replied  that   Alaska  had  a  high                                                                    
recidivism rate.  There was  a recent  case where  a trooper                                                                    
was  shot  on duty  by  an  individual  who  was on  an  Own                                                                    
Recognizance (OR) release from  prison. The trooper was shot                                                                    
five times and his vest saved his life.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Rasmussen was  grateful  the department  had                                                                    
the proper equipment. She stated  that roughly 60 percent of                                                                    
women  in the  state had  indicated they  had been  sexually                                                                    
assaulted or a victim of  domestic violence. She asked if 60                                                                    
percent of Alaskans were also  committing the offenses or if                                                                    
it  was  a  smaller  number of  perpetrators  with  numerous                                                                    
victims.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  responded  that   the  state  had  a                                                                    
problem with  domestic violence and  sexual assault.  He did                                                                    
not want to speculate on  the reasons because there could be                                                                    
a  multitude  of  factors.   He  thought  the  victimization                                                                    
surveys were highly accurate, perhaps  even more so than the                                                                    
crime  rate  statistics.  It was  not  common  for  domestic                                                                    
violence cases to be first-time occurrences.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:22:58 PM                                                                                                                    
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:23:56 PM                                                                                                                    
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DIANE  CASTO,   EXECUTIVE  DIRECTOR,  COUNCIL   ON  DOMESTIC                                                                    
VIOLENCE AND  SEXUAL ASSAULT,  DEPARTMENT OF  PUBLIC SAFETY,                                                                    
agreed  that   the  victimization  surveys  were   the  most                                                                    
accurate barometer  of the situation.  She did not  have the                                                                    
exact number of  repeat offenders, but it was  clear that it                                                                    
was  common for  there to  be multiple  instances of  sexual                                                                    
assault and domestic violence by  the same perpetrator. Part                                                                    
of the  goal was  to stop the  perpetrators and  reframe the                                                                    
issue so there were no longer multiple victims.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  stated there had been  a situation in                                                                    
Aniak about  a week  earlier and  the U.S.  Marshals Service                                                                    
was called  in to respond. He  asked for more detail  on the                                                                    
efforts  of marshals  in Alaska  and  wondered if  it was  a                                                                    
small concentrated application of resources.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  responded that  the department  had a                                                                    
partnership  with the  U.S.  Marshals, as  it  did with  the                                                                    
Federal  Bureau of  Investigation  (FBI)  and other  federal                                                                    
agencies.   He  explained   that  the   department  utilized                                                                    
marshals for  high-risk arrests and guessed  that there were                                                                    
fewer than  10 marshals  in Alaska.  The situation  in Aniak                                                                    
was classified  as a high-risk  arrest, therefore  a marshal                                                                    
was asked to step in.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  believed it went without  saying that                                                                    
high-risk events  had likely increased  over time.  He asked                                                                    
if his understanding was correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell answered  that he  believed it  was a                                                                    
fairly  accurate  statement.  The attempted  use  of  deadly                                                                    
force on  law enforcement  officers in  the state  had risen                                                                    
since he  had become  a trooper, and  unfortunately officers                                                                    
also had  to use deadly  force to respond to  situations. He                                                                    
added that application  of CERT had also  increased over the                                                                    
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon asked for  more information about drug                                                                    
search  dogs  and asked  how  many  dogs and  handlers  were                                                                    
active in the state.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  did not have the  information on hand                                                                    
but  could  supply an  answer  in  writing. He  deferred  to                                                                    
Colonel Barlow.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Colonel  Barlow did  not  have the  exact  number but  would                                                                    
compile  the information.  There  were  dual purpose  canine                                                                    
teams and single purpose teams  located in various locations                                                                    
throughout the state.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:28:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  turned to slide  7 and explained that  she would                                                                    
address  the significant  budget  changes over  the next  10                                                                    
slides.  She  indicated  that  slide  7  showed  the  budget                                                                    
changes for  the fire and  life safety  appropriation. There                                                                    
was a  request for the addition  of a Deputy Fire  Marshal 2                                                                    
in Bethel  for rural  fire investigations.  The cost  of the                                                                    
position  and the  related equipment  and  support would  be                                                                    
one-time funding. There was also  a request for more funding                                                                    
for rural fire training and education.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell addressed  the AST appropriation on  slide 8. She                                                                    
read through  the significant  operating budget  changes for                                                                    
FY 23 as follows:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
    Establish New Dispatch Services Allocation                                                                               
    Add Funding for Dispatch Services Contract with Kenai                                                                    
     Peninsula Borough  $1,819.4 UGF                                                                                            
    Add Twelve State Troopers and Two Public Safety                                                                          
     Technician Positions  No additional funding and 14                                                                         
     PFT [Permanent full-time]                                                                                                  
    Expand In-Car Video Storage Services  $631.5 UGF                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon asked about  the additional trooper and                                                                    
two  public safety  technician positions.  He  asked if  the                                                                    
legislature  could expect  a budget  request  in January  of                                                                    
2023  if  the  department  was  successful  in  filling  the                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan responded  in the affirmative. He  wanted to show                                                                    
the  legislature   that  the   department  could   fill  the                                                                    
positions  and he  expected  to come  back  with an  amended                                                                    
budget once the positions were filled.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked for the  current status  of dispatch                                                                    
in the Ketchikan station.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan responded  that  the  Ketchikan Dispatch  Center                                                                    
still had  the capacity  to dispatch  and the  positions had                                                                    
been  retained in  Ketchikan. The  focus of  the center  had                                                                    
been  adjusted to  handle the  online police  reporting team                                                                    
and   validations    team,   which    encompassed   numerous                                                                    
administrative functions. The department  planned to go live                                                                    
with its new online police reporting function in two weeks.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked for clarification that  the dispatch                                                                    
function  was  not  currently  carried   out  by  anyone  in                                                                    
Ketchikan.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan confirmed  that  Fairbanks  was dispatching  for                                                                    
Ketchikan.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  asked if  there had  been any  analysis on                                                                    
the  effectiveness of  dispatching  for  Ketchikan from  the                                                                    
Fairbanks  center.  He  thought  dispatch might  not  be  as                                                                    
effective  if  the  dispatcher was  not  familiar  with  the                                                                    
Ketchikan area.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan replied  that  he was  aware  of two  complaints                                                                    
related  to dispatch  over the  past year.  However, it  had                                                                    
been determined  that the complaints  were not the  fault of                                                                    
dispatch but  were due  to the timing  of the  deployment of                                                                    
troopers  out of  stand-by status.  He shared  that dispatch                                                                    
had been  based out of  Fairbanks for  over a decade  and it                                                                    
was not  necessary for dispatchers  to be familiar  with all                                                                    
areas of the  state because the troopers on  the ground were                                                                    
familiar with  the areas in  which they were based.  He felt                                                                    
confident  in the  department's ability  to dispatch  across                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:36:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked about the  estimated cost of  the 14                                                                    
new trooper positions listed on slide 8.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell would follow up with the information.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick  asked  how long  the  department  had  to                                                                    
retain the recordings from body and car cameras ("cams").                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan  answered that  it depended on  the type  of case                                                                    
and there  were statutes  and regulations that  governed the                                                                    
retention.  The   department  could  be  required   to  keep                                                                    
recordings in  perpetuity if  it was  related to  a homicide                                                                    
case, or 90 days if it was a less serious offense.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Thompson   asked  if   troopers  experienced                                                                    
communication problems in remote areas.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan  answered affirmatively. He elaborated  that part                                                                    
of the  reason why  APSCS was being  transferred to  DPS was                                                                    
because the  department could better embed  the program into                                                                    
the public safety response mission  instead of it being in a                                                                    
different department.  The department would also  be able to                                                                    
leverage  emerging  technologies  such as  low  earth  orbit                                                                    
satellite  networks. He  shared  that  the department  would                                                                    
consider  all   possible  solutions   in  order   to  expand                                                                    
connectivity  across the  state, but  specifically in  rural                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Ortiz asked  if the  department was  aware there                                                                    
had  been a  connectivity  breakdown  between Ketchikan  and                                                                    
Fairbanks  that   resulted  in  an  emergency   request  for                                                                    
Ketchikan  to take  over dispatch.  He  wondered what  would                                                                    
happen if there was a similar  event in the future and there                                                                    
was no one in Ketchikan able to perform dispatch duties.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan answered  that there  would always  be consulate                                                                    
radios  available, and  dispatch could  still function.  The                                                                    
department  planned to  continue to  maintain the  emergency                                                                    
dispatch  functionality. He  was not  aware of  the specific                                                                    
incident referred to  by Vice-Chair Ortiz and  would have to                                                                    
research it.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz asked if the  dispatch would go through the                                                                    
Ketchikan police  if an emergency  scenario happened  in the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Morgan answered  in the negative. He  clarified that the                                                                    
facility in  Ketchikan still functioned,  but it  was simply                                                                    
not  interconnected  with  the  network.  There  were  still                                                                    
personnel staff in  Ketchikan that would be  able to perform                                                                    
dispatch duties.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell continued with the  AST appropriation on slide 9.                                                                    
The  department  was  asking for  funding  for  the  trooper                                                                    
positions  that  were  added  in   FY  21.  Several  of  the                                                                    
positions had been filled and  the department was seeking to                                                                    
fund  the positions  at 100  percent,  requiring a  $170,800                                                                    
increase from  the governor's amended  budget. She  read the                                                                    
rest of the operating budget changes for FY 23 as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    Funding to Establish Office Space in Togiak and Hooper                                                                   
     Bay  $200.0 UGF                                                                                                            
    Add Positions to Address DVSA and MMIP  $818.8 UGF and                                                                   
     7 PFT                                                                                                                      
 Add Four Criminal Justice Technicians  $404.4 UGF and 4                                                                     
     PFT                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:41:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Howell  continued   with  the   changes  to   the  AST                                                                    
appropriation on slide 10. She read from it as follows:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   Add Positions in the Alaska Bureau of Investigation                                                                       
     $395.5 UGF and 4 PFT                                                                                                       
   Add Positions in the Technical Crimes Unit Digital                                                                        
     Forensics Lab  $234.9 UGF and 2 PFT                                                                                        
  Add Three Alaska Wildlife Trooper Positions       No                                                                       
     additional funding and 3 PFT                                                                                               
  Add Funding for Public Safety Technician Time Status                                                                       
     Change  $369.4 UGF, 6 PFT and (6) PPT [Permanent                                                                           
     part-time]                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick requested  for Ms.  Howell to  include the                                                                    
wildlife troopers  to the  information the  department would                                                                    
provide regarding the cost of the 14 new positions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell would provide the requested information.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  compared the criminal  justice system                                                                    
to an offensive  line in football. He  understood the system                                                                    
to be a package in some ways,  but in other ways it was not.                                                                    
He  asked if  the governor  had a  criminal justice  cabinet                                                                    
that  comprehensively  analyzed  all  of  the  elements.  He                                                                    
thought it seemed that much  of what generated the increases                                                                    
in  positions  needed  to  be   attended  to  elsewhere.  He                                                                    
supposed that the department could  not comment on the topic                                                                    
but thought that  it was a legitimate point.  He had chaired                                                                    
the Department of Corrections  (DOC) budget subcommittee and                                                                    
thought that  many positions  would be  absorbed by  DOC, or                                                                    
possibly  by the  Department of  Health and  Social Services                                                                    
(DHSS). He thought the topic warranted some consideration.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  appreciated the comments but  did not                                                                    
have a response.  He was on the  Criminal Justice Commission                                                                    
and  although the  commission did  not  have a  conversation                                                                    
about each  position that  was added to  the budget,  he was                                                                    
able  to see  a  broader  view of  the  activity of  various                                                                    
agencies.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  understood that the commission  was a                                                                    
separate entity  and not a  subtenant of the  department. He                                                                    
asked  if   there  were  conversations  taking   place  that                                                                    
involved all of the components of the "offensive line."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell thought  that  it  was a  challenging                                                                    
question.   He   had    regular   conversations   with   the                                                                    
administration on  the direction of DPS  and sometimes other                                                                    
members of  the cabinet were  part of the  conversations. He                                                                    
did not see how the new  positions would affect DOC or DHSS.                                                                    
He  thought  that  he  perhaps   did  not  fully  understand                                                                    
Representative Edgmon's question.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  respected the answer. He  thought the                                                                    
additional  positions  would   generate  more  people  going                                                                    
through  DOC,  which  could  potentially  impact  the  court                                                                    
system and the Department of Law (DOL) and DHSS.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  stated that  the new  positions could                                                                    
potentially cause  more people  to go to  jail, but  it held                                                                    
people accountable  for their actions.  He thought  it would                                                                    
provide more tools for the  department to better perform its                                                                    
duties.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Ortiz  thought that  everyone supported  the role                                                                    
of the troopers in the fight  against crime in the state. He                                                                    
thought it was necessary to  employ a broader effort to look                                                                    
upstream  to reduce  the  crime problem.  He  asked how  the                                                                    
state could position itself to  reduce the crime rate in the                                                                    
long run  so that it was  no longer expected that  the crime                                                                    
rate would  increase every  year. He stated  it was  a large                                                                    
question  and  not  solely the  responsibility  of  the  DPS                                                                    
commissioner.   He  thought   the  state   needed  to   make                                                                    
investments  in areas  like education  to  reduce the  crime                                                                    
rate over time.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell understood the  benefits of a holistic                                                                    
approach. Part of  the problem was that  the department went                                                                    
through the budget process annually  and it was difficult to                                                                    
coordinate  the process.  Additionally, there  were election                                                                    
cycles  that produced  high turnover  rates,  which made  it                                                                    
difficult to have meetings to  strategize ways to tackle the                                                                    
big issues. Each department was  focused on its own mission,                                                                    
and he  had not  sat down with  the other  departments apart                                                                    
from DOC.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:50:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell continued  with the  AST appropriation  on slide                                                                    
11. She read from the slide as follows:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 Add Two State Trooper Tactical Flight Officers and One                                                                      
     Aircraft Pilot  $614.2 UGF and 3 PFT                                                                                       
    Add Funding for Aircraft Maintenance and Repairs                                                                         
     $1,800.0 UGF                                                                                                               
 Add Funding for Large and Medium Vessel Fuel and Parts -                                                                    
     $500.0 UGF                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  turned to  the VPSO  appropriation on  slide 12.                                                                    
She read the information as follows:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
    Add Tribal Liaison Position  $125.5 UGF and 1 PFT                                                                        
   Add Funding for Ten Village Public Safety Officers                                                                        
     $2,328.0 UGF                                                                                                               
    Funding 5% Salary Increase for VPSOs  $617.6 UGF                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell addressed  slide 13  related to  the Council  on                                                                    
Domestic  Violence &  Sexual Assault  (CDVSA) appropriation.                                                                    
She read through the slide as follows:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
  One-Time Funding for Victim Services Grants  $3,500.0                                                                      
     Fed/CSLFRF [Coronavirus State and Local Fiscal                                                                             
     Recovery Funds]                                                                                                            
 Add Two Program Coordinator Positions to Manage Victim                                                                      
     Services and Perpetrator Intervention Programs  $93.2                                                                      
     Fed, $193.2 UGF and 2 PFT                                                                                                  
 One-Time Funding for Alaska Family Justice Center Model                                                                     
     Study  $500.0 UGF                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:53:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  LeBon referenced  the Alaska  Family Justice                                                                    
Center (AFJC)  model on slide  13 and thought  that $500,000                                                                    
seemed expensive for  a study. He asked if  Ms. Howell could                                                                    
offer  reassurance to  make him  feel  comfortable with  the                                                                    
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  responded  that  the  model  was  part  of  the                                                                    
governor's People  First initiative. She explained  that the                                                                    
model   could  be   effective  where   the  resources   were                                                                    
available;  however, in  smaller communities  it was  common                                                                    
for  a  person to  receive  all  services in  one  facility,                                                                    
whether that be legal  advocacy, law enforcement, or medical                                                                    
assistance.  The  model  would   allow  for  a  more  victim                                                                    
centered approach  to be employed.  It was not  yet apparent                                                                    
if  the model  would  work in  smaller  communities, but  it                                                                    
would  work   in  communities   where  the   resources  were                                                                    
available. She was  not certain if the model  would cost the                                                                    
full $500,000  until the contract  was procured, but  it was                                                                    
the estimate that was currently in place.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative   LeBon  asked   if   the   $500,000  was   a                                                                    
placeholder figure.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  answered  that   the  state  procurement  rules                                                                    
required  that  the  department release  an  estimate  as  a                                                                    
competitive solicitation. She confirmed  that the total cost                                                                    
could come in lower than $500,000.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick  asked if the  state would get a  refund if                                                                    
the amount came in below $500,000.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell would ask OMB.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick thought  it would  be  interesting if  the                                                                    
money could be used elsewhere  in the department if a refund                                                                    
was not possible.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  advanced  to slide  14  showing  the  statewide                                                                    
support appropriation. She read from the slide as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    Add Tribal Liaison Position  $125.5 UGF, 1 PFT                                                                           
    Funding for Two Analyst/Programmers, a Geographic                                                                        
     Information    Systems    Analyst,   and    Two    Data                                                                    
     Communication Specialists  $700.3 UGF and 5 PFT                                                                            
    Increase Designated Program Receipt Authority for                                                                        
     Criminal Background Checks  $622.4 DGF [Designated                                                                         
     general funds]                                                                                                             
    Funding Six Criminal Justice Positions to Support                                                                        
     Validation Audits  $606.3 Fed, $67.4 UGF, and 6 PFT                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  continued  to   review  the  statewide  support                                                                    
appropriation on slide 15 as follows:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
    Criminal Records Improvement Projects $4,841.3 Fed                                                                       
    Increase Federal Receipt Authority for Existing Multi-                                                                   
     Year Grants for Forensics, DNA, and Sexual Assault Kit                                                                     
     Tracking  $627.0 Fed                                                                                                       
 Funding Six Positions to Reduce Turnaround Time on DNA                                                                      
     Testing -$1,229.3 UGF and 6 PFT                                                                                            
 Transfer of Alaska Public Safety Communication Services                                                                     
     from DMVA -$7,103.1 UGF, $2,100.0 Fed, $150.0 DGF,                                                                         
     $350.0 Other, and 24 PFT                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:57:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Howell  concluded  the presentation  with  the  Violent                                                                    
Crimes  Compensation   Board  appropriation  on   slide  16,                                                                    
reading as follows:                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
    Reduce Authority Due to Decreased Availability of                                                                        
     Restorative Justice Funding for the Crime Victim                                                                           
     Compensation Fund  ($157.7) Other/Crime VCF [Victim                                                                        
     Compensation Fund]                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  highlighted the need for  as much law                                                                    
enforcement as  possible in the  Lake and  Peninsula Borough                                                                    
and    surrounding   communities.    He   appreciated    the                                                                    
commissioner  coming  on board  and  he  was convinced  that                                                                    
things would get better under the current leadership.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick agreed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  asked  for  the  reason  for  the                                                                    
funding decrease shown on slide 16.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  answered the restorative  justice account  was a                                                                    
separate  fund  in  the  dividend fund.  It  was  funded  by                                                                    
dividends  that  would have  gone  to  individuals who  were                                                                    
otherwise ineligible  due to  criminal offenses.  The number                                                                    
of  ineligible individuals  as well  as the  dividend amount                                                                    
had decreased, which subsequently  resulted in a decrease in                                                                    
the  amount of  funding  available to  appropriate into  the                                                                    
restorative justice account.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:59:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Josephson  stated  that  in  2021,  DOL  had                                                                    
wanted  to  shift  the  cost  of  municipal  prosecution  of                                                                    
felonies  to  the municipalities.  He  had  chaired the  DOL                                                                    
subcommittee  had  resisted  the   change  and  it  had  not                                                                    
occurred.  One could  argue  that a  borough  should not  be                                                                    
required  to pay  for its  own public  safety. He  asked how                                                                    
many  trooper positions  would be  made available  for other                                                                    
duties if  boroughs were required  to have their  own police                                                                    
forces.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell answered  that DPS  had no  authority                                                                    
over dictating what boroughs should  and should not pay for.                                                                    
He thought the  matter was a policy decision  that should be                                                                    
made by  the legislature  and the administration.  He stated                                                                    
that DPS's responsibility was to provide law enforcement.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson asked  if Commissioner Cockrell was                                                                    
comfortable estimating  the number of troopers  covering the                                                                    
North Star Borough or the Mat-Su Borough, for example.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Cockrell  was   not  comfortable   responding                                                                    
because he did not have enough information.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick asked for the  parameters for not receiving                                                                    
a Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD).                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Howell  answered that certain categories  of individuals                                                                    
were statutorily  ineligible for a PFD  due to incarceration                                                                    
and other reasons. She would  provide more information after                                                                    
the meeting.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick had  heard  that incarcerated  individuals                                                                    
would not  receive dividends. She  wondered if  the dividend                                                                    
would  become  available  immediately upon  an  incarcerated                                                                    
individual's release.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:02:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Thompson stated that  ankle monitors were set                                                                    
up  to  keep  people  out  of prison.  He  asked  about  the                                                                    
relationship  between the  Department of  Justice, DOC,  and                                                                    
AST  regarding ankle  monitors and  asked  which entity  was                                                                    
responsible for tracking the monitors.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell answered that  DOC was responsible for                                                                    
ankle monitors. He noted that  DPS would typically receive a                                                                    
notification if an individual violated  the parameters of an                                                                    
ankle monitor and the individual would be arrested.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wool asked  what  kind of  efforts were  put                                                                    
into causation  or prevention  of crime  in order  to reduce                                                                    
the need  for cops, courts,  and corrections. He  noted that                                                                    
all  three were  budget items  that had  been increasing  in                                                                    
magnitude. He  understood Alaska led the  nation in domestic                                                                    
violence, sexual  assault, and  gun violence and  was number                                                                    
two in suicide  rates. He asked what  prevention efforts had                                                                    
been  employed. He  understood that  suicide was  not easily                                                                    
preventable  through  actions  like introducing  more  VPSOs                                                                    
into  villages and  thought it  might be  a question  better                                                                    
suited for  a behavioral  health expert.  He asked  if there                                                                    
had been efforts or discussions about prevention.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Morgan  responded  that  there was  not  a  macro  view                                                                    
available currently. He  explained that DPS now  looked at a                                                                    
number  of different  causation factors  and partnered  with                                                                    
public  health officials  to  share data  on  a core  level,                                                                    
which had not  happened in the past. He  understood that DPS                                                                    
was  not the  entity  responsible  for examining  causation,                                                                    
however  DPS was  the entity  that held  important data  and                                                                    
information. The  system had been more  compartmentalized in                                                                    
the past, but the  departments now freely shared information                                                                    
with  other  entities   that  investigated  the  causational                                                                    
factors of suicide and overdose deaths.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:07:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wool appreciated the  response and believed a                                                                    
holistic  solution  was  needed  in  order  to  bring  about                                                                    
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Cockrell  remarked  that  as  a  state,  there                                                                    
needed to  be improvement  in the  way mental  health issues                                                                    
were  handled.  He noted  that  troopers  were dealing  with                                                                    
mental  health crisis  regularly and  the crisis  rates were                                                                    
only increasing over the years.  There was a systemic mental                                                                    
health crisis in  the state and likely in the  nation and he                                                                    
did not  think it had  been properly addressed.  He remarked                                                                    
that it  would be  helpful to  have a  place to  take people                                                                    
experiencing mental health crises other than DOC.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative LeBon  commented that  some members  lived in                                                                    
areas that enjoyed the service  of local police departments,                                                                    
including   himself.  He   understood  that   if  a   police                                                                    
department asked the  city council and the mayor  to add one                                                                    
position, there would be a  debate, a budget adjustment, and                                                                    
upon  approval,  taxpayers  would  pay  for  the  additional                                                                    
position. He  thought there was  a disconnect in  the state,                                                                    
but  he did  not  fault anyone  for it.  If  DPS needed  100                                                                    
additional  troopers, the  legislature  needed  to fund  the                                                                    
positions.  He  would  feel  more  comfortable  funding  the                                                                    
additional positions if  he knew what the cost  would be. He                                                                    
did not  think it was  proper to approve and  fill positions                                                                    
and worry  about the money  later. He encouraged  members to                                                                    
build the money into the budget in the current cycle.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Cockrell  agreed that  the strategy  was risky.                                                                    
He stated the  process would not happen  overnight, but that                                                                    
it was a step forward. He  hoped to be around long enough to                                                                    
see the improvements.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Merrick thanked the presenters.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HB  281  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB  282  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Merrick reviewed  the schedule  for the  following                                                                    
day.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:13:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:13 p.m.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
DPS Dept Overview HFC Presentation 02.17.22.pdf HFIN 2/17/2022 1:30:00 PM
DPS Responses to House Finance Committee 02.17.2022.pdf HFIN 2/17/2022 1:30:00 PM